JIB
Thanks for the posting with the info.
Like the idea and wish you a winner with King's Point at 64-1 its a bet to nothing.
Everyone needs to check the going today the weather is awful

I've been looking at tonight's Epsom card so I'm going to put up a few selections and would be interested if anyone has a VDW or trainer-intentions based viewpoint.
7:25 Habanero looks the best bet but Mbosi is worrying so the stake would need to be split (no bet for me).
7:55 Looks a one horse race so as long as Imitiyaz is better than evens it's a bet.
8:25 I cant see an alternative to Realism but I dont find it very convincing, maybe a bet (in theory) at 2-1 or better.
8:55 I dont find any attractive but for the sake of arguement I would go with Lord Of The East.

Epi,

These Condition races are ones to treat with caution - like the 7.55 they often have small fields and short priced favs. I think Fruhlingssturm is interesting and could be a danger. But for me these are races to leave alone.

I am no expert, so please dont shoot me down in flames, I also think the Imtiyaz looks a good thing in this, but someone pointed out to me that Philip Robinson is there for one ride only tonight, and that is in the same race.

There is money for his horse - Frumlingsstrum.

So I am not as convinced about Imtiyaz.

Ah, sorry Lee, I see you beat me to it.

Okay, thanks.

Well done you three first 2 home.

Musing after the event , would the S Suroor horse Imtiyaz be up for this race 8.55 Epsom tonight?, he`s won much better prized races than this almost ala Sulamani yesterday.What odds both horses winning better prized races than they have just been beaten in the last few days later on in the season?.

GUEST
As you're looking in, for at least the 3rd time within a week, I began to wonder why?
Either you are not happy with your present situation; or you are?
One look would give cause for doubt, three+ looks puts it beyond doubt.
Obviously, neither your view of the method, nor the breakaway thread, is giving the answers you purported to have.
Where does that leave the rest of your followers?

Johnd,

Hasn't it crossed your mind that Guest and others, may just be checking or rereading old posts? They were closed to us for a long time. I suppose it maybe to gain some of your well thought out at ideas, but I suspect not.

Be Lucky

Johnd,

It leaves us well in the black.

with winners today of 7-2, 8-1, 11-2 and an unlucky 3rd at 11-1

Bollocks !!!

Post them up before the race !!!

Same old shit !!

Im surprised you lot need to hang around the forum if you's can pick winners like that

Exactly...we have to work without rules in order to find out the rules of what we have done.

A real question though is whose power will "legitimate" what we have done as the right way of doing it? Certainly not VDW himself.

an' 'ere wus me tellin' um all, wun ur to 'ad sh'n sum incklin' of understandin.

Walter,

"The class/form horse seldom fails to win when the prize is big enough", is what VDW wrote, and so I think you'd be right in what you've posted.

That aside, the best recent piece of form on offer, from a VDW stance was Fruhlingssturm's beating of Naheef. Given that it was his seasonal debut last time out I felt that he had a very good chance of winning the race on merit.

Johnd

Portman Park leaves us well in the black.

with winners today of 7-2,8-1,11-2 and an unlucky 3rd at 11-1

Apologies, my last post seems rather out of place - I feel as if I've just walked out of the saloon and stepped into the middle of a shoot-em-up.

My money's on the sheriffs' men.

(That is sheriff - as in: person in charge of keeping the peace of Wild West town.

Not to be confused with sherif: Descendant of Muhammad through his daughter Fatima)