Having terrible problems getting on to this forum in the last couple of days,but can get on betfair without any problems.

Some very interesting posts,and must say I was surprised that anyone would lump on Best Mate yesterday,a question I have,would Collier Court Windsor 3.05,have been considered as a typical vdw good thing today?tried to put it up earlier but couldn't,but I would be interested in any comments.Must say it was a hairy round of jumping though.

I don't know,Iv'e bollocked to kingdom come and back for aftertiming.I put a horse up and it wins,Now i'm Mad and i might aswell set fire to money.Can't bloody win.

Lee
It would have been nice to hear your views pre race.Instead of after the event.Now you seem to be joining in a bit maybe you'll stay around and try and cure my madness.

It does seem that my VDW attempts do better on Saturdays.

Does it say anything about that sort of thing in any of the books or pamphlets?

I still haven't been able to read my e- copies yet, bc of PDF.

Tomorrow I'll really give it a go.

Btw, Forest was selected mostly by using the method Investor set out for me. The other horse came from another punter's idea.

Now it's time to get a drubbing at Wolver!

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Lee
It would have been nice to hear your views pre race.Instead of after the event

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Investor,

I can only think that you are referring to analysis when you wrote the above, as I can’t remember claiming a selection after the race has been run?

The crime that you are accusing me of above is unjust in my opinion and for the sake of misrepresentation I’d be grateful if you could show me some evidence that backs up your charge.

Actually the cap fits snugly on your head, not mine, and if required I will take the time to show you the evidence. Remember I told you, and anyone else who cared, that they were mad before the race in question.

I was accused a while back when I did put up some pre-race selections that I was committing some sort of offence by not offering the reader an analysis of how I came to isolate those WINNERS. Now you are accusing me of exactly the same, after you posted the following:

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Well BEST MATE is confirmed as a selection today.He has an ab rating of 660 with the nearest being Frenchman's creek on 166.Which means that B.M has averaged a whopping 49 grand in win prize money more than anything else in this race.he's won 4 from 5 fto and is 2 from 2 at exeter.And we all know what race he comes out of.H Knight and T Biddlecombe went all the way to exeter to check out the ground.I wish all those that oppose him the best of luck.”

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If the above is your idea of an analysis then you’ve a long way to go. It tells us nothing that is not known to everyone on this thread! If the above is not your idea of an analysis, then perhaps you’ll show me one on here that you’ve previously put up?

Any thoughts on Collier Court anyone,a good thing?aftertiming I know,

Lee
Well somethings really got under your skin.You have completely mis interpreted my post completely.I wasn't accusing you of aftertiming at all.I was merely stating that it would have been nice to hear from you before the race.As for the evaluation your quite right,If you care to read my posts i have been mentioning to Black cat about certain factors That throw up winners when 3 factors come together and Best Mate was one such horse.So yes there was no evaluation really.But if you care to check the horses aswell then the factors are there.I have als said that this is not vdw,But the factors i have given are powerful when class and form back them up.I'm not interested in pitting my wits against you or taking you on in any kind of tipping challenge.But it would be nice to hear that someone thinks your mad before rather than after.

Lee
i owe you a big apology,Iv'e just looked at page 805 and see that your post was timed at 1.58.I thought you had posted after the race.My sincereist apologies.If there was a logo with a big red face i would put it up,it was a complete overlook on my part fowhich i now feel stupid.Sorry.

Lee
I would like to explain myself,When i made that post yesterday.For some unknown reason it wasn't until this morning that i was able to get back into the sight.I even e.mailed Gummy to see if i had been banned or something (maybe he could confirm this) When i did get into the site early today i saw your post,But didn't note the time it wasn't until you said that you had said what you had pre race that i looked back.And oh dear,I can fully understand why you were pissed off.Iv'e apologised once but now i hope you can understand how it happened.It was a complete overlook on my part.

Just to say that Best Mate was suggested by Investor as one that fitted 3 class factors suggested by Colin Davey's Method.

I say well done to him for putting it up.

investor
i think lee knows his onions about racing,and you would like to get more out of him,but dont you think your taking the piss with your aplogies?

B.C
Thanks for the support mate,But i do dive in with both feet sometimes.I'm still happy with my decision to back best Mate.i have always respected Lee's Views and thought i had learned from him,But he constantly criticises selections that i put up so maybe i still have work to do.

I hope you noted again today i mentioned 7 horses,One was a n/r 2 won and 3 2nd's.i didn't put money down on any of them.But keep your eyes on them factors mate,They will serve you well.

Greg
I KNOW that lee knows his onions about racing and vdw.And no i don't think i'm taking the piss,It is a genuine reason.I'm not affraid to say sorry when i'm in the wrong and that is what iv'e done.I'm not really bothered what you think,I just hope that lee understands.

thats ok then,because im not really bothered what you write

Investor,

I’m glad we’ve cleared that one up!

Interestingly, now that you realise I posted my views before the race you appear to accept my reasoning in greater faith?

There are a couple of morals in there somewhere. One, of course, is to read and understand what has been written, the other…

TEMPEREMENT.

i`m going to be sick

Neither of you are right!

The other moral was - make your views clear before the race because that way your conclusions, right or wrong, should be taken seriously and gain respect.

Greg,

How's tricks?

very well,yourself?

fine and dandy thanks.

lee, investor greg, everyone,would it be possible to go into more detail with these hidden factors?