investor.do you think that old sp/forecast price of a horse is important when looking at a horses current race?

I asked first Nessie .

Both timed at 9.04 Spooky or what .

Come on Investor spill the beans man! stop larkin about.

Mactheknife posted up a table on this thread a while back re- price lto strike rate this time out.
It was a long time ago.Dont know if it was accurate or not?.

Nessie/Walter pigeon
i did say that if the right questions were asked i wouldn't shy away from them,So in answer to your question,Yes They are important and they need investigating,This is why it is very difficult to get to the bottom of these methods without the form books.Vdw gave clues in certain letters that come accross as simple answers,And i have often said that there are double meanings,Anyway enough of that.But in answer to your question i must give an emphatic YES.

there might be somthing init as BF is often quoted. expect investor to get the maths wrong tho' just kiddin

(posted that after your reply.)


- So if we ask theright questions then you will give double meaning ansers? How does that help anyone?

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Nessie
Your hot man,But youv'e got to get into his mind,And try and juggle the figures about,Great stuff though mate,Keep it coming.Your light years in front of jib already.

Email sent to info@bhb.co.uk :

Sir,

Could you please update me on the current situation as regards a horses' Oficial Rating and how the Oficial Rating is affected by any racing the horse may do outside the UK.

Thanks in anticipation,

John

nessie
I will help anybody,But first of all theyv'e got to help themselves,I have spent the last 2 years plus looking at this subject,You asked me a question and i gave you an answer,There was no double meaning,But the answer i gave will make you think,But i very much doubt you will arrive at the right conclusion,But i won't bullshit you,But then ain i WON'T spill my guts all over this thread,I have given plenty of clues as to how i interpret vdw now it's up to you to do the homework.

ok. do the last sp's need to be improving like 3rd fav 2nd fav lto then fav today? or ran a stinker lto to get a beter price today?

or how about look at all the sp's lto and put them in order and make a forecast and look at the 1st 5/6 and compare that with the 1st 5/6 running today? no fibbing now - am I still hot? LOL

 2(7) 0404 Selective 26  E F Vaughan  5 9-6 E Ahern  PM105
5(8) 2129 Adaikali 54   Sir Michael Stoute  3 8-13 K Fallon  PM105 * *2129
8(3) 6742 Go Tech 8  T D Easterby  4 8-7 G Gibbons  PM105 *6742
7(6) 2250 Grey Clouds 8   T D Easterby  4 8-11 D Allan  PM104
6(2) 0045 Parkview Love 12  M Johnston  3 8-12 K Darley  PM103
3(5) 2703 James Caird 15   M H Tompkins  4 9-5 J Fortune  PM101 *2703
4(1) 1115 Masafi 50   Sir Mark Prescott  3 9-4 S Sanders  PM101 * *1115
1(4) 839/ Torcello 696   G Wragg  6 9-7 R Ffrench  PM0 

to be fair JIB what 2 horses have improving form figs. Where do they figure in the betting. It is what vdw said.

But what about the lto prices investor am I hot hot hot?

Nessie
You have asked some very pertinent questions,And i have answered as far as i can,Please understand the effort that has been put into this subject.it doesn't matter what more i say about the subject,You really need h form books to see it for youre own eyes,Unfortunately they are like rocking horse shit and i was very lucky to get most of them,But there are traits, patterns,call them what you will that run through a lot of vdw selections and believe me it isn't bollocks like many think it is,But you really and i can't emphasise this more,Need the form books.You have though hit upon an area that is important,But it doesn't stop there.

Oh I agree Nessie, it was an interesting one, but these fellows want it every which way it appears. On the overpreached c/f horse formula Go Tech was a vdw nightmare. 17 consecutive defeats, 6 of them at todays distance, etc etc

investor.sorry mate but you come across as a arrogant git. a little help to a closed shop does no harm and does you a lot of good. Who the hell do you think will go of an sell or pass on your answer? Ok you have worked for years trying to crack it. but you havn't. so if you share then others will be there to share and help with you. trying to sound like some mystic racing guru is bollocks. sorry but there you are. what the point in coming on here and always saying I know more than you but I'm not telling you what. 'you need the form books' blah blah. What if I've got everything that vdw ever wrote? what if I've got the form books? what if I want a little help? no - dont ask investor he talks like he knows but never proves it.

i'm on here to talk vdw, so why dont you?

rant over.

Jib
Now let's cut to the quick,I gave you the option of having the books,And the form books.I even offered to pay the postage,Now without these you have no arguement,Because you haven't got the slightest idea how vdw interpreted form,That is clearly evident in your last post,I have just said to nessie,I will help anybody,The thing with you though john is you don't want to understand vdw,You even admitted that you are set in your ways.You do very well by the sounds of it and most look up to you,But with all due respect mate you know jack shit about vdw's methods.Please don't take that the wrong way,But without the form books nobody will.

bloody hell Nessie

what a very good post

you have hit right at the heart of this forum with that.

what exactly is the purpose of us posting if we just use the forum as "puffing of one's chest" exercise?

you are talking too much sense..they won't like you

Nessie
Arrogant git,Now that really is unfair,I reckon your taking the piss my friend,What i will do over the next few days is put what i consider are horses for consideration,And you analyse them,if you ask the right questions i will answer them honestly,After that period i will leave you to your own devices,Cant be fairer than that.Arrogant,Arrogant cheeky twat.

don't you at me ! LOL (are you the EC?)

Now lets look at this another way. I'm might be vdws grandson and I'm testing you. now how much would you be losing out on by not talking straight?

again I posted before your reply.

You got a short memry investor. We already done that. hit a few battleships then you went quiet. stop the cat and mouse because your are being arrogant again.

Night night slep tight and don't let the bugs bite.I'll speak tomorrow,Iv'e got a naked women in wait.

lucky bugger.