Statajack

There you go, I was spot on!


Tuppenycat

Presumably for Australian tennis, after Philippoussis bottled it today?

What I find most difficult to recolcile with my own attitude with is the insistence that VDW is exemplified as a succuss when even the merest neophyte can see that you are losing money, you cant find winning horses. If you refuse to acknowledge your sickness how the **** do you expect to be cured?

When I saw that stone I thought about graveyards, I'll take a wander but I dont have faith in ghosts.

Naw -

We concentrate on the Gee Gees now !!

Choisir is only rated 3 Down Under !

tc

Ghosts exist |

Wander and you may find one - 674

Epiglotis

Every day, discounting races comprising horses having their first runs, there are twelve to thirty or more VDW class/form horses. Whether one makes money or not depends first on one's methodological ability to identify the c/fs, and second on one's ability to be selective.

You have no idea whatsover about any VDWer's bets, with the possible exception of Guest and Johnd, and you don't know, and I don't know, how many of the selections they've been putting up on the "80%" thread they've backed, or indeed what other bets they have placed but not posted. So why don't you stop talking out of your backside.

Fulham

Assuming the prices don't become too short, any selection that is given on the 80% thread by respective posters i would hope is being backed by them.

The new International level at which Group operates - means that VDW's measure of "Class" - is now irrelevent !! - Take Choisir - Dalahlani - Hawkwing - Alamsher -Airwave - Fabrav.

All raced in different countries with Different Prize money at stake .

How do you compare performances from Hong Kong
, Ireland,Japan,France,England, USA -etc


tc

JIB

My last response to Epiglotis applies equally to your post - and to you.

Incidentally, Easter Sunday was late this year - 6 July, not 20 April as the diaries suggest.


Andrew

That is a reasonable supposition, but I don't know, and I am sure Epiglotis and JIB don't know, which of their "80%" horses Guest and Johnd actually backed. I would be surprised if they'd all been backed, for the reason you suggest: some went off very short compared to, for example, Post forecasts. More to the point, what reason have we to suppose that, whichever of the selections were backed, they were Guest and Johnd's only bets?

But the more fundamental point is that VDW's main approach is not a system, like the one for which Delboy puts up qualifiers, it is an approach that can in principle be applied to almost any race. It is the individual's understanding of that approach, and his or her ability to apply it appropriately selectively, that determines how successful they are. Epiglotis and JIB's comments simply, once again, reveal how little they understand about VDW.


Tuppenycat

VDW faced the same problem, with Irish and French form to be taken into account. He managed, and we manage still. That said, it is not much of a problem in the kind of races I concentrate upon: class A and B handicaps, 6f and upwards. Those who know how to isolate the c/f will know it is unusual for it not to be placed, at least: as was again the case in all three of the class B handicaps this Friday/Saturday.

[This message was edited by Fulham on July 06, 2003 at 09:02 PM.]

JIB

Goodbye.

Jolly Swagman posted July 05, 2003 03:29 PM
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Old Newton Cup

Backfitting as usual

Old Newton Cup

There was a strong case for Collier Hill - but no one mentioned it !

1st 0r 2nd for 8 succesive starts last year 1st on only start this year.

Could be called the FORM horse in the race !!!

Don't hide behind "placed" horses !

tc

In view of the fact that so much backbreaking toil goes into unearthing the dross, it seems appropriate that Van Der Wheil is an anagram of a hewn drivel.

I think this temple has now closed!!

Anyone with an ounce of sense won't have to ask why.

Will that last to leave please turn out the lights?

I don’t think it is the temple that has closed so much as the disciples have been found wanting. I doubt if the man himself would have expected the blind unchanging obedience that has been shown on here.

Second that Jimmy !

I think a lot of you are mentally ill.