I recently enquired about a close member of a certain jewish family and can state without fear of recourse or sophism that the person who claims to be VDW is not in fact him, the methods he is employing are purfunctory.

Che

I am pleased and fortunate to find you still alive,

30 odd year's ago you told me personally why horses fall.

This clarity of direction saved me many a pretty penny i can tell you.

I would be in you gratitude once again if you tell me why they pull up?

yours sincerely

Gordon.

You have really given the game away now, its
obvious that youre really Alex GORRIE

"The c/f horse is no more than a rating that should not be taken at face value & be an automatic bet, but it may show a horse that has a good chance" well thats that sorted mtoto! your right of course, so how do we proceed from here ?.

silverbuck.

This thread has gone to pot since the forum was open.All the good relevant posts,are now mixed with all the not so good ones.Gummy would it be a good time to stop the thread,and start a knew one,therefore preserving the previous works,of Guest,Fulham etc

Gummy - It seems the major drawback to your forum going public again is that the cloak of guest status seems to allow this page to turn into amateur comedy hour.

Once or twice I have personally decided to withdraw from posting for one reason or another. At the moment I can see no reason to post anything of sensible or worthwile content. Maybe that will change at some point, but I do have my doubts.

I'll watch with a passing interest from the sidelines from time to time though.

I can only echo Guest`s comments.

The sooner things get back to normal the better.

Gummy,

May I suuggest you put matters right immediately.

Thank you in anticipation,

judging by your spelling you numb mother ... you have a long way to go better get some knew books

Statajack

Having just returned from a few days holiday I was disappointed to see the change in the character of the thread to which Guest and Determined have referred.

Among all the nonsense, your "navel gazing" posts seem to me to have received markedly less attention than they deserve, and I should like to join Mimas in thanking you for taking the trouble to post them, as they certainly provide food for reflection. It remains to be seen whether the thread reverts to a state where it makes any sense to pursue the lines you've opened up, but if not here they will certainly be explored elsewhere.

Regards.

Silverbuck.

Once you have found the class/form horse, you then have to determine if it passes all the other filters and is the likely winner. Satatajack has listed some potential vdw selections. I don't know if the people that mentioned these horses considered them c/form horses in their races. I have marked the ones I consider to be with a * that is not to say there have not been many others. Today, I made Tough Speed and Capricho, both c/form horses. TS failed on my filters but C was a bet.

** c/form but no bet for what ever reason



18/06/02 Rock Of Gibraltar won 4/5 ** (price)
09/07/02 Feet So Fast won 7/2 *
09/07/02 Millenary won 5/2 ** (failed to many times)
02/08/02 Nayyir won 9/2 *
03/08/02 Prompt Payment won 6/4 *
03/08/02 Scott's View won 6/5 ** (no value)
10/08/02 Feet So Fast won 6/4
16/08/02 Systematic won 4/11** (price)
17/8/02 Fayr Jag lost
17/8/02 Mubtaker won 11/8*
20/08/02 Bandari won 4/5.** (price)

I am sorry to say that if Gummy doesn't sort this thread out quickly I also will not bother to post again. I would like to thank the members that have made this the best thread on the inernet, and I sorry to see it end like this.

Be Lucky

I have noticed that like me,you have made a spelling mistake,be ready for the type of comments that are ruining this thread.I concur with the sentiments of the regular contributors.

Hello Mtoto
I for one am sorry to hear that!!! I`ve found your posts and other members on the VDW thread very imformative, although i do not get involved i`m sure this is just a passing phase.
Keep with us as i`m sure it will turn out for the better in the end.
regards
Tony.

Thats fine mtoto thanks for the reply, i personally would like to thank gummy for opening this forum up to the public, as was stated on another thread, new blood can only be off benefit in the long run, you never know who`s looking in do you? give it some time gents you might meet some new people who could surprise a little ,it surely isnt that elitist in here is it?.

Hello All,
I do appreciate your concern over this thread but there are a few genuine new posters who want to learn about VDW and are willing to contribute and maybe they can contribute from a new angle.
Rest assured that any derisory posts will be deleted and if this thread gets out of hand I will do something about it please bare with it for now.

Gummy

please don,t let these non believers who don,t understand,or more to the point don,t give a s..t destroy a great thread

Just got back from the pub, my wife's pissed off, the RP online has "no results in yet", life is already exemplifying some kind of torture without the added suspense of waiting for the results of the Guest vs Van Der Wheil story?

I would like to address various long term members who have recently complained on this thread about the renewed public status of the Gummy board, if you want it private you have to give Gummy your financial support. If you're so shit-kickingly hot at finding winners you shouldn't be seriously incommoded by this. Your insistence on behaving like dependent kids multiplies the featheryness of your assertions.

So, who was right? Guest or VDW?

Gummy,

Newcomers of course are very welcome and as Silverbuck points out there maybe some out there who`ll bring alot of knowledge to this thread.

Equally, several could damage this brilliant website.

You are monitoring things closely which makes me feel a bit better.

Cheers,