Originally posted by les henderson: think that arc bleucan just scrape into the ebor as it did in the pitmans derby because of the going heavy and low weight could see a rush on its price as it did at newcastle has anybody got any thoughts on this?
Given that the ground will still be heavy come Wednesday, I'd say there's every chance he'll get in. If he does he'll probably be single figures by the day. Be interesting to see who rides him at 8st 4lbs; we'll know later on today.
after the 48 hour decs strangley arc bleu did,nt take its chance ,top 5 ability are,mudawin 368,mad rush 325,young mick 280,hindu cush 263 and kashlari 224.the top 6 best at the weights last 3 runs using rpr,young mick 116,milne garden 115,tropical strait 120,bogside theartre 114,mad rush 113 and record breaker 113 with only mad rush and young mick apearing in both lists,checking going mad rushhas won on soft surely surely its carrying to much weight any thoughts fellow vdwrs
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Mad rush has won on soft surely surely its carrying to much weight any thoughts fellow vdwrs
Wouldn't think so - nor would his trainer, so it seems? Considering his optional entry was in the gp2 Lonsdale over 2 miles, 14f under 9.11 should be within his compass.
looks to be a good rematch with young mick,mad rush will need to improve am begining to side with him/her lumping that weight in soft wont be easy but we,ll see
Originally posted by johnd: My fault for not being clear, but the part of your post I disagreed with was "what it had behind it" . Too many think that is were the answer lays, but that is normal form reading, not what VDW advised.
Hi Johnd
I've given your post some thought.
Didn't VDW say that nothing had been written for the sake of it? and to "READ WHAT WAS THERE". If that is so, and he also wrote "look what it had behind it", then surely that must form at least part of the evaluation.
"....providing YOU READ WHAT WAS THERE. The last in capitals because it was all there although a vital factor, call it the missing link if you like, was not deliberately pointed out.
Although he mentioned what they ran against later in SIAO, it is not a part of that oft referred to 'Vital Factor', nor is it needed to explain his examples. In fact, as Boozer points out, it does a very poor job in explaining some of them.
Are there any horses in the Ebor that have this vital factor? im really curious as to what this is as if it improves my betting by 20% or so i could be retiring at 45 instead of 50 .
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