aye a start it an you come oot wi the winner an i,m on the square root

Fell oot the stalls and went steadily backwards, dinnae ken whi we bother les.Ah`ll still be up the day whatever happens efter Bond City but ah must confess ahm losin interest in this fun bettin stuff, wance ye start bettin a few losers on the back oh wan anothir it starts tae get ye doon.It`s as if its no funny anymare ye know?.

if its not fun why bother?

5$ win,20$ place toms laughter top weight on an easy track like john says maybe a bit sharp for it

That`s a guid question.

Git on wi lesy baby.

What prices did ye get les?.

7/1 this morning

Can ye split the bet in the bookies these days £5 win £20 place?.

aye ye can get place only now

Do the books offer there own odds or is it on the tote?.

tote

Aw right - thought we were missin oot there takin the win odds on a horse wi a book now and then and playin the exchanges fir places minus the commission.

Ah think ye were 4th les.

Aye ye were well done son Bond City no at the races.

Oh dear 7/1 on shot beat in a 4 horse race at Musselburgh another in the race started wi its hood on pmsl - just what they need the day efter thon Panorama thingy last night.

But Van der Wheil is saying don't think about what might win, think about what can't (logically) lose.

George,

Do you really think after looking at a few selections the above is true? While I can see it can be argued many of the selections could be expected to win IF they run their race, I feel many fall well short.

Be Lucky

Mtoto

That seems to me to be where the distinction between Little Owl and Sunset Cristo on one hand (bets) and Gaye Chance, Kenlis and Wild Gamble on the other (not bets despite being the class/form horses and in one case a "good thing") is critical. Even I can see good reasons for leaving the three non bets, while Little Owl looks as good as they come, with Sunset Cristo just a touch less certain.

Darcys Pride for me in the last at Musselburgh win and place good luck guys see ya.

George,

I had forgotten your grading of the VDW selections, so I will forward Park Express (certainty) as a selection I would doubt fits the description of "can't (logically) lose".

This horse fails to register in the top four for ability or the three most consistent, in fact it isn't even in the lowest five for consistency. However it is the first five in the forecast, this is a none hcp.
The top rated for ability (100) is a consistent horse 2nd lowest, the forecast favourite and actual favourite at 1/2 at the off. This horse had beaten PE 1.5 lengths and a neck, at level weights over the same distance in her last race. In the race in question they ran at level weights again, + it isn't as if PE was a distance winner.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with making PE the selection, but how the certainty tag, and why is there no logical reason she can't be beaten? For me this is just one of many I would ask the same question about.

Be Lucky