Ta Walt

Stoutes turn next year

dont like to cross codes but PUNJABIlooks a good bet today at the weights if its to be beaten it maybe a little short in distance

Punjabi, Mad Rush, and Sheila House.
It's one of these three, imo.

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dont like to cross codes but PUNJABIlooks a good bet today at the weights if its to be beaten it maybe a little short in distance

Well done you two.

Ref the Zetland today I think Re Barolo is a stand out e/w today won on left handed course won at distance trying to hide the horses ability by sending it abroad to win has good jockey put up not to high in the handicap has a good RPR reported by the trainer to prefer a sound surface won a cls 2,31k race at wolv the way he races best is to be handy sure its been laid out for this NOW I'VE PUT THIS UP WILL PROB TRAIL IN LAST
still i'll be backing it

have fun

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Originally posted by michael:
Ref the Zetland today I think Re Barolo is a stand out e/w today won on left handed course won at distance trying to hide the horses ability by sending it abroad to win has good jockey put up not to high in the handicap has a good RPR reported by the trainer to prefer a sound surface won a cls 2,31k race at wolv the way he races best is to be handy sure its been laid out for this NOW I'VE PUT THIS UP WILL PROB TRAIL IN LAST
still i'll be backing it

have fun

I'm looking at First Buddy and Re Barolo in an each-way dutch, with preference for First Buddy.

First Buddy is a doubtful runner bc.

Sorry its Rio Riva next door to it need to get my specs out.

Ho hum.

looks like its punjabitime again thought that the way it ran lto going early and hanging on over 1m 4f the 1m 2f will suit

HI LES
If a horse hangs is that a sign it needs a shorter distance

Well done Les.

It had been trading at 4/6 most of the day, which I wouldn't have bothered with, but I backed it at 11/10 10 minutes before the off.

paul i thought so in this case

after buying the 2 sad ken books POSITIVE PROFILES,and BACK IN THE RING,have assesed my first race hope its right as i use another way of finding an ability rating ,[top top speed recorded + top racing post rating recorded minus horses handicap rating}only in handicaps .have went for the 4.55 at haydock where PATKAI 4pts,THE BETCHWORTH KID 3pts,TIGHNABRUIGH 2pts and SAFARI SUNUP 1pt with a each way on THE BETCHWORTH KID the bet to take out of this i think?

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Goodwood 3.35

IMO according to my interpretation of the VDW correspondence there are no races that fully meet the requirements of a G Hall 'key' race. The nearest are Hay 2.10 and Gdw 3.35. I have assessed the Gdw 3.35 as per VDW's illustration of the 1980 2,000 Gns.

Headings fro columns: Cloth No, consistency, £ class, best ever Topspeed, best ever weight-adjusted, Topspeed (I have included RPR & Formcast ratings to balance the platform):

1_X_0_X_X_0_0_X_X Ordnance, looks capable of a bold sbow
2_X_0_X_X_X_X_0_0 Babodana, not won since 2004 but has ability to show. 3rd 9/1
3_X_X_0_0_0_X_X_0
4_0_0_X_X_X_0_0_X
5_X_0_0_0_0_X_X_0
6_X_X_0_0_0_X_X_X La Rayb, C.D since being gelded may be more to come
7_0_0_X_X_X_0_0_X
8_X_X_0_0_X_X_0_X Lady Gloria, filly versus males? 2nd over CD 28 days ago but more needed. 2nd 13/2
9_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0

Overall this is a race where VDW might state 'alarm bells should be ringing' as the ratings don't confirm the other factors. I did have another look at the race with what could be called the poor man's Timeform. I adjusted the SF by weight and priced them up, noting the first 5 in the RP betting forecast:

1 87 18/1 Ordnance
2 112 11/2
3 109 6/1 Bankable. WON 7/4
4 103 15/2 Caldra
5 76 22/1
6 104 7/1 La Rayb
7 96 10/1
8 112 11/2 Lady Gloria. 2nd 13/2
9 109 6/1

All the above may not be much help but I hope it is of some interest. The only one's I would be interested in at the odds would be Babodana (win strike-rate 5%?) and Lady Gloria (filly versus males?).

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Today, I'm looking at Major Cadeaux (315H).

well done blackcat had a wee bet myself

Chantilly 4.35

Very definitely a G Hall 'key' type race IMO
Rather more difficult to access the data for racing across the Channel, although I feel this race is OK.
Taking the first 5 in the RP betting forecast plus recent consistent runners beyond that they were starred for consistency, winning prize money, weight-adjusted speed and top 3 RPR:

Stars
4 Thewayyouare, penultimate race - held up, ridden, ran on. Top-class and a contender over the D.
4 Natagora, ant-pen race - made virtually all, ridden out. Filly versus colts? Speedy but D is a concern?
3 Democrate, headway, challenged, driven to lead, driven out. D? Improving.
2 High Rock, led 2 out, soon clear, easily. Improver and impressive April. D?
2 Prospector, pushed along, ridden, led, pushed out, D? Improver could show
2 Starlish, just beaten by Democrate. Progressive but needs more.

i,ve always thought that some trainers like to give there jockeys a winner before a big race so on that thought i think that the lord of freemason lodge will put out CONDUITin the first race before TARTAN BEARERgoes on to lift the derby

without looking at the race surely GETAWAY is a winner tomorrow.