good g_d almighty how does he feel about that is he on a hit list from all those pension fund people they say he had a good record during the war was he not a commando

VINCENT HI
COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE TITLES OF THE BOOKS YOU MENTION BUY MR VOEGLE, STATIST, DEVONIAN.

THANK YOU
PAUL

LES
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO POST THE SONG ,THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.

THANK YOU
PAUL

Paul

Unfortunately uncle vinny likes to talk in riddles
Bit like a VDW clone I suppose
That lives the part and uses the same expressions that they have read in the pamphlets
They place Wagers not bets and they dont disagree but are at variance


The book by Voegle is called Horse Sense
Yes it is similar to VDW in parts

Devonians Turf Topics and backers guide
Dont know if this is the one but only one I can find

Statist
Never heard of him/it

Dont bother googling youll be there till the cows come home
Vincent can tell you but he seems to have difficulty expressing himself in plain english

paul hope you dont think this is to sarcastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwJ-g0iJ6w could not find that song

"Clever Betting" by Statist (of The Sporting Life)

or what about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68P2WBRS_YU&feature=related

Johnny Nash... memory lane today Les.

i can see clearly now is in my top 3

Heres a bit of Voegles Horse Sense
The book is actualy By a bloke called Paul Major
A uk adaptation of Voegles professional method of winner selection



Let me give you an example from one season:
I noticed that, though Homefield had run second twice, being beaten only a neck in a handicap in his previous race, he was allowed to start 4-1 in a field of four for an apprentice race at Doncaster when carrying less than seven stone. He won by five lengths.
Homefield then ran third on a higher-grade track but, when he returned to a moderate race at a poor northern meeting, starting at 5"”2, he won by five lengths.
Now he goes for a good price at Ayr. It's a fair field. But this consistent animal gets weight all round. Eight runners. A perfect each-way bet at, guess what, 14"”1. He won by five lengths.

Surely the public knew that, whatever their prejudice, they were losing money opposing Homefield.
Yet dropped to a £500 race at Catterick, Homefield was permitted to step down to the start a 5"”2 shot. He won by two-and-a-half lengths.
Where were all those punters?
Surely now the Homefield run must come to an end? Well, it looked that way when his trainer aimed sky high at the Good-wood Stakes next time out. Sure enough, though Homefield led for a long way (as he liked to do), he had no answer to Pamroy's final-furlong challenge. He finished a respectable fourth.
That was it then I The punters knew a good honest handicapper when they saw one, didn't they? Beaten in a big race, but not disgraced, after a fine display of consistency... Homefield had made it hadn't he? He'd neverbe allowed to start at value odds again in a handicap in the North.
Oh! Wouldn't he! Oh! British Punters, where were you?
You had it all there in the formbooks, all this information about the gallant Homefield, yet he went to Thirsk, in his very next race after Goodwood, with just 7st. 91b. to carry "” one of the bottomweights on a low-grade track "” and you let him start at 6"”1.
Homefield didn't just win. He made all the running. Every yard of it. So he deserved to. . . on form. I made him 7"”4 in my own betting forecast. And I made the other punters pay for their error. . . for they paid me through the bookmakers!
Remember! You can't beat the bookmaker. But you can beat the other punters. Many, many times.
By now you've digested some important principles of my method of winning money from betting. We are almost ready to go into detail.
But I must stress the other lesson to be learned from the Homefield story. Read your form books. Read the facts. Read between the lines. Translate them to fit the approach of the new, improved you, the new'professional approach which is gradually taking over from the gambler within you as you read this book.
It's hard work digging up form. One of your most successful bookmakers, William Hill, reckoned to spend six hours a day in form study.
The average punter in America has his Daily Racing Form chart for each race giving the exact placings of every horse at the quarter, half and threequarter distances as well as positions in the finishing stretch and at the fin ish~ To complete the picture, the distances between the runners at each stage are indicated, the winning time is given, and the performances of all the main contenders is put into close-up. All th'at for each horse's last eight races.
With information of this sort at his elbow, the American backer can come to fairly quick conclusions. It is relatively easy to spot the horses in form, out of form, the triers and the non-triers, the battlers and the cowards.

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BOOZER
VOEGLES HORSE SENSE IS THAT THE TITLE, ONLY IM AM NOT HAVING MUCH LUCK FINDING IT AT THE MOMENT

LES
BIG THANKS, THEY ARE CLASICS SONGS.

BC THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY

Nice post boozer,its all in the formbook isn't it.

Paul

Horse sense is by Paul Major

The uk adaptation of lawrence voegeles professional method of winner selection

Thats on the cover

Dont think youll find a copy

I gave away a copy of voegeles book to someone on here cant remember who.

Ive got printouts of majors book as well.

is it more of the same walter

I never learned much from them mind you that`s no the fault oh the books, jist me no understandin.There was one boy on here in the distant past that gave a working example of majors method in operation and he had the first and third in a race from a few picks at decent odds.