Fulham has found VDW.

In the last 24 hrs Fulham has published VDW's real name and his address. Other more respected members of this forum will no doubt come forward to confirm that, though the precise details I do not feel at liberty to divulge even though Fulham makes no restriction as to my or their doing so.

The evidence of identity is overwhelming, there is no possibility of error. VDW has been found and his circumstances do not correspond with his claims.

It is a time for much reflection.

Thanks John.

No doubt more information will be supplied in due course. Well done Fulham/AlanB.

Alan,

I would like to publicly congratulate you, and thank you, on the success of your efforts in identifying VDW.

I can confirm what JIB has stated above in that the evidence is conclusive and beyond question as to his identity.

JIB,

Given what racing is about, and that those involved can be desperate souls I think it is easy to understand the VDW saga. There is no doubt that he was an intelligent man, given his written word, however it is my hunch that he was a gambler who knew first hand of the pitfalls that he warned of.

Lee,

I agree, VDW could be a figure from ancient tragedy.

I believe that his work got him glimpses of Olympus, but we mortals have to tread carefully because we are beset by pride, greed, and vanity; all of which can humble us in an instant.

Horse racing is immensely complex, it is no accident that VDW's best students all employ varying methods but all are unanimous in agreeing that their methods are specific to a certain category of racings multiple formats.

VDW failed because he tried to make his discoveries about the nature, behaviour, and characteristics of class and form into a universal panacea. Hercules might have been able to do such a prodigious feat but he was a god. However when VDW tried he discovered that he is a mortal and fell into the trap that destroyed him.

Those that will insist on following the hardline interpretation with its golden keys and mysterious stars are in danger of making sacred what is profane.

I believe that the best attitude is to learn from VDW's mistakes, thank him for the inspiration, and push ahead as best we can.

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Originally posted by john in brasil:
I believe that the best attitude is to learn from VDW's mistakes, thank him for the inspiration, and push ahead as best we can.

Perfect.

Wow I am gobsmacked,this is a bolt out of the blue,I am truly perplexed.Where was this posted as I would like to view it if possible.

How could a guy who knew so much not have succeeded,I am truly sorry if what you say above jib is true.

So he wasn't "Colin Davy" after all ?

tc

Hi Tc,

No CD isn't the culprit.

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Originally posted by Pipedreamer:
Wow I am gobsmacked,this is a bolt out of the blue,I am truly perplexed.Where was this posted as I would like to view it if possible.

You'll find a little more on here: RSUK vdw thread

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The evidence of identity is overwhelming, there is no possibility of error. VDW has been found and his circumstances do not correspond with his claims.

So can we kindle the fire with the booklets now or what?. It`s been a hoax from the start has it?, Prominent King etc?.
What`s this all about there is nothing on the rsuk link to clarify the situation.

Hello JIB and Lee

I really do not understand this situation at all. JIB you have come onto say that Fulham has published VDW'S name and address and Lee confirms this by confirming the same and also that the evidence is overwhelming. The only thing overwhelming is another bout of secrecy, I really am quite perplexed.

One can only assume that the three of you are e-mailing to each other as none seem to want to say how this information is published.

Why all the cloak and dagger, why not just keep stum if you do not wish to tell the truth and publicy substantiate it?

I have to say it all seems particularly weird to me.

Thank You

Vincent

Well, if Fulham says so, it must be right.
FFS

Vincent,

My understanding is that AlanB/Fulham is considering the publishing of a book on the VDW saga, to include the information (as stated in the RSUK thread).

BC

BC

That was indeed my understanding of the situation, but there has been a change of mind. Having presented his evidence to the ten people he regards as best able to appraise it he has decided to take matters no further, as VDW has made it quite clear that he does not wish to meet and thus the principal objective of the endeavour has not been achieved. In such circumstances it would be gratuitous to make VDW's true identity and personal details (which form the core of the evidence that has been assembled) public.

JIB and Lee's very similar appraisals of the evidence are interesting and, given their longstanding memberships of this forum and reputations, I would have thought would be regarded as definitive.

I am quite certain that AlanB/Fulham will not be referring to the matter again in a public forum, though the implications of the evidence will no doubt continue to be considered by those who have seen it.

For what it is worth, I am certainly not discarding my "Peach" booklets. I doubt many people really believed "Che Van der Wheil" was the real name of the author of the main letters, which are there to be studied.

Hello BC

So if you can't beat them, join them.

Thank You

Vincent

I give up

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Is there no end to this we know something that you dont bloody nonesense

Hensman

Not only are you deluded, it seems you are also suffering from a split personality; at what stage of schizophrenia does one begin to talk about himself in the 3rd person?
At one time, I would have taken JIB's word for it but, as he has since seen fit to climb into bed with those who undertook to try and wreck this forum, I can only assume his judgement must be tainted.
Lee, also, has not found out about this by divine intervention, which again begs the query of how closely you have been in contact recently.
One thing is certain, it isn't by chance that has suddenly moved into your corner, which raises exactly the same doubts as it does about the rest of your clique.
As far as I am concerned, you have proven nothing, nor will you while we have only the word of your secret society, which would like nothing better than has happened in the past, to pretend to have all the answers, and thus to use this forum as a conduit for recruitment.
Put up, or shut up!

I think I have a bandwidth problem as I can only access this forum using a proxy server and then only late at night so forgive me if I do not reply promptly.

The reason that I don't reproduce VDW's real name and address as revealed by Fulham to me is the wish to not be responsable for throwing the real VDW to the lions.

As you know there are no shortage of odd characters who frequent VDW threads, and VDW has made it clear that he has no wish to comment on these matters. And, for whatever his sins, as he very much deserves my respect, I feel he could be exposed to needless bullying from people who could feel a grievance about his conduct.

VDW's real identity, once revealed, would not come as a complete surprise to an assiduous student of the subject as the name appears not long after the launch of the saga.

However I can reassure everyone concerned about these developements that Fulham's research is an exhaustive and awesome collection of official documents and handwriting samples. He has scanned these to the 8 or 9 people he has chosen as witnesses to his discoveries, and on examination of them it is clear, without the slightest shadow of doubt, that he has found our man.

The story told by VDW about his origins, his circumstances, and his activities are untrue. When he first started writing he was a poor man who had just received a £70k inheritance from his mother which apparently led to his spreading his wings and claiming they were a result of his betting activities.

It is here that the story starts and that truth cannot be reconciled to testimony. On the one hand we have a fellow who clearly has a privileged insight into horse-racing but apparently isn't capable of making it pay.

The abundance and conviction of VDW's writings impress a generation of punters but he seeds them with innumerous lies about his success and resulting affluent lifestyle.

Besides Lee both OT and Mtoto can confirm the veracity of this thread so please don't think that this is an attempt to confuse, on the contrary I hope it will, once properly digested, make a vital contribution to all those genuinely interested in the subject.

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Originally posted by john in brasil:
VDW's real identity, once revealed, would not come as a complete surprise to an assiduous student of the subject as the name appears not long after the launch of the saga.

That must be a big clue john in Brasil, thankyou