Translation -

Davey is a nutcase who wasted Peaches time. He wanted to pinch the VDW letters, and put them all together in a single book.

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Peach knows Evans.-

Evans was a big fan of VDW at the time, and was given a lot of space in Raceform Update to express his views on the subject. - (I have seen copies of these articles, indeed I may have forwarded them to BC.)

His thinking these days is still heavily biased towards VDW - but he has changed from the original dogma.

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Peach recalls his telephone conversations with VDW, and remembers him as a man getting on in years.

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On balance, I think that Evans did not write the original letters, but that he is still "Milking the Cow"



tc

no I did not sighn on as tc in the other place. Think maybe that it's just that you are using a different door to the one that I can't open.

I remember all three articles posted by Rio Grande in the Update & had them in my possesion until recently.
In fact im sure i posted some of the contents up on the vdw thread somewhere but not sure how long ago this was?.

Rio Grande -

Is / was - One of Evans horses.

tc

did - bugger all

Thats the pseudonym he wrote 3 articles under in the Update as well tc.

Small World !

Tomorrows the last day for those to wish to stay on the other forum to pay their ten bucks btw pmsl.

initial - short list for racing tommorrow -

be interesting to see how the *** selections feature.

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3:40 Sandown 3 Dec Handicap Chase 3m 5f 7 Run details

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4 TOULOUSE-LAUTREC 5212-12 10-12 1 2 702 635 866 834 ***
7 TANTERARI 11506-4 10-0 13 1 620 538 749 809 (25)


12:50 Haydock 3 Dec Handicap Chase 2m 6 Run details

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6 CYBORG DE SOU 2P5P-13 11-0 48 2 561 338 693 648 ****


2:30 Haydock 3 Dec Handicap Hurdle 2m 4f 15 Run details

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6 BETTER DAYS 35459-7 11-1 13 1 689 637 792 765


3:00 Haydock 3 Dec Nov Hcp Chase 2m 4f 11 Run details

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10 DUN DOIRE 1 10-1 21 1 0 630 630 731


3:35 Haydock 3 Dec Novice Hurdle 2m 4f 15 Run details

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1 THE COOL GUY 211-1 11-5 52 1 627 583 769 730 ***


12:10 Wetherby 3 Dec Novice Hurdle 2m 7f 11 Run details

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1 TANDAVA 43-1142 11-10 42 4 646 591 716 635
9 MAC DARGIN 42 10-12 23 2 0 590 667 632 (3)


1:45 Wetherby 3 Dec Handicap Hurdle 2m 6 Run details

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6 SNOW'S RIDE 3-44113 10-3 52 5 572 562 695 785


2:20 Wetherby 3 Dec NH Flat 1m 6f 14 Run details

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8 MOHAYER 4 10-12 30 1 0 606 606 580


2:50 Wetherby 3 Dec Novice Chase 3m 1f 5 Run details

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2 MCKELVEY 12-1221 11-8 21 4 695 668 811 816 ****


1:35 Chepstow 3 Dec Novice Chase 2m 10 Run details

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10 LE VOLFONI 32 10-7 11 2 0 687 763 756


2:10 Chepstow 3 Dec Handicap Hurdle 3m 13 Run details

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13 THE GANGERMAN 44-4342 10-0 15 4 558 554 666 743 *****
7 JALOUX D'ESTRUVAL -2F51-2 11-5 24 1 679 608 778 732 (11)


2:45 Chepstow 3 Dec Handicap Chase 2m 3f 7 Run details

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5 SERPENTINE ROCK -341-31 11-7 15 2 559 498 781 734
7 JACKS CRAIC 51224-2 10-13 15 1 619 605 714 732 (2)


2:10 Chepstow 3 Dec Handicap Hurdle 3m 13 Run details

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13 THE GANGERMAN 44-4342 10-0 15 4 558 554 666 743 *****


3:50 Chepstow 3 Dec Maiden Hurdle 2m 11 Run details

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11 THE LUDER 4 11-2 15 1 0 645 645 632

Massey & vdw tc?.

All of that mate -

and a bit more .



dont forget the speed figs !

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Swish was "the boy" !!!

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I have Mckelvey 250W as a racing certainty.

I knew Swish before Gummy TC hows he goin about his sf`s these days?.

Mon then John explain yourself.

I put up Trabolgan before the race last Sat & Alan B & his cohorts accused me of merely putting up a selection without any explanation.
That was my wrist feckin slapped then.

wish I knew Walter -

he seems to have disapeared into the "ether"

Don't know how old he is, - but I am told that he has problems - getting onto the "Net" these days

JIB - you "Bugger"

what brings you back - when you have shaken the "Sand" from your "Shoes" ??



Flower selling season - over ??

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or is it that you have to take refuge on here in order to - "Put up a horse before the off" ??

- realy not PC !

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Well i reckon he`s a right auld bugger who plays a decent game of pool, bit of a shark if truth be told..

give him my love -

he taught me a lot !!

Did he tell you how to find that winner in a race though cause if he did`nt he was`nt really much use was he?.
What is this key that G.Hall found & you know TC?.

Chuffed to bits you're okay JIB - always liked your posts.

TC - if Toulouse Lautrec runs tomorrow I'd be very surprised. And if I was not on holiday and it did run I'd lay it - running 4 miles carrying top weight one day on soft, then travelling from Exeter to Sandown and running over 3.5 miles the next day on heavy (and then some)...

Mr Massey needs to tweak his software.

Thank you for posting his ratings in Fineform - very eye opening.

Walter - you need to smack the Penguin a little harder! I missed fourteen 10/1 plus winners, but I did better your score.

Ive tried to beat your score but cant nfp.