Dobbin No.7; Lee & Dobbins, high SR..
Too powerful for me.

Anyway, back to reality:

Swish had big computer probs and could only reply when he went to the library to use the PC there.

I thought he was a valuable member, and nearly brought his name up in the recent forum turmoil, but decided it wouldn't help matters.
Anyway, that's all in the past now, so I'll send a message to Swish. He has health probs, so I hope he's OK.

Those track categories are interesting. Somehow my punting is better ( not as bad) at the original Group One tracks ( 1970s).
I must be stuck in a time warp.

Hi Seanrua
Tried to send an email to Swish this morning came back no account in that name.
se

Pitmatic & Boozer Cheers,
Id been looking at a 2nd numerical picture ratings procedure put up by Barrison on the other vdw board, but did`nt have the course classification to complete things.

The points system was based on:

(a) The class of racecourse the horse had ran at lto.

(b) The class of race lto i.e. (A1=55pts) (A2=50pts) (Listed=40pts) e.t.c.

(c) Also points awarded for penalty value lto.

There was a thread on General Discussion in which Honcho and I posted course classes, if you can find it using the search facility they might be worth comparing.

COURSE Left/Right Gall/Tight Und/Flat Finish Str Draw Suit Front run /Hold up class
ASCOT A R GALL UNDU STIFF SR 5-8f Hold Up A
AYR A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f Front Run A
BATH C L GALL FLAT STIFF LR None Front Run C
BEVERLEY C R EASY FLAT STIFF SR 5f H to 8f, ex sf when L Front Run C
BRIGHTON B L TIGHT UNDU None L Sprints Front Run B
CARLISLE D R EASY UNDU STIFF None L on sf Front Run D
CATTERICK D L TIGHT UNDU None L esp 6f; H 5f sf Front Run D
CHEPSTOW C L EASY UNDU 5-8f Front Run C
CHESTER B L TIGHT FLAT LEVEL SR None L ex 7f Hold Up B
DONCASTER A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-8f L in big fields Hold Up A
EPSOM A L EASY UNDU EASY UND LR 5f dwn L-M big fields 6/7f A
FOLKESTONE D R EASY UNDU EASY UND SR 5-6f H 5/6f Front Run D
GOODWOOD A R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND LR 5-6f H on Rnd esp 7f A
HAMILTON C R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND LR 5-6f H 5/6f & 8f esp sf Front Run C
HAYDOCK A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f H 5/6f on sf A
KEMPTON A R TIGHT FLAT LEVEL 5-6f H 5/6f esp on sf Hold Up A
LEICESTER C R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f M to H 5/8f C
LINGFIELD B (TURF) L TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND SR 5-7.5f Front Run B
MUSSELBURGHD R TIGHT FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5f L 5f sf Front Run D
NEWBURY A L GALL FLAT 6-8f H 5/6f sf Hold Up A
NEWCASTLE A L GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-7f L 5/7f gd or fstr Hold Up A
NEWMARKET July A R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f Hold Up A
NEWMARKET Rowley A R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-10f Rail big fields 5/10f Hold Up A
NOTTINGHAM C L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f Hold Up C
PONTEFRACT C L EASY UNDU STIFF SR None Hold Up C
REDCAR B L GALL FLAT LEVEL SR 5-8f H 5-8f B
RIPON B R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND SR 5-6f H Rnd L Str Front Run B
SALISBURY B R EASY FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f H 5/6f exc sf L Hold Up B
SANDOWN A R EASY FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5f H sf A
THIRSK B L TIGHT UNDU LEVEL LR 5-6f U H 5/6f esp fm B
WARWICK D L TIGHT FLAT LEVEL LR None L gd or faster Hold Up D
WINDSOR C R TIGHT FLAT LEVEL SR 5-6f H 5/6f gd L 5/6 sf Front Run C
YARMOUTH C L EASY FLAT LEVEL LR 5-8f H 5/8f Front Run C
YORK A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f M 5/6f L/M Rnd Hold Up A

Cheers Epi & SE,
Thats useful info SE.

Cheers.

Yes, that's useful info, thanks.

Btw, SE, I had the same problem when trying to reach Swish.

I expect he'll get in touch when he gets sorted.

Seanrua

Yes I expect so.

SE

COURSE Left/Right Gall/Tight Und/Flat Finish Fences Suit Speed/Stam Suit Front run /Hold up class
AINTREE (MILDMAY) A L TIGHT FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED A
AINTREE (NATIONAL) A L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA A
ASCOT A R GALL UNDU STIFF Q.DIFF FRONT RUNNER A
AYR A L GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE STAMINA HOLD UP A
BANGOR D L TIGHT FLAT EASY DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
CARLISLE D R NORMAL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA FRONT RUNNER D
CARTMEL D L TIGHT UNDU EASY EASY D
CATTERICK C L TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER C
CHELTENHAM A L NORMAL UNDU STIFF DIFF STAMINA A
CHEPSTOW B L GALL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF B
DONCASTER A L GALL FLAT EASY Q.DIFF STAMINA A
EXETER D R NORMAL UNDU STIFF AVERAGE SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
FAKENHAM D L TIGHT UNDU EASY AVERAGE SPEED D
FOLKESTONE C R NORMAL UNDU EASY DIFF SPEED C
FONTWELL B 8 NORMAL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED B
HAYDOCK A L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA A
HEREFORD D R GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
HEXHAM D L NORMAL UNDU STIFF AVERAGE STAMINA D
HUNTINGDON C R GALL FLAT EASY DIFF C
KELSO D L TIGHT FLAT STIFF EASY D
KEMPTON A R TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF FRONT RUNNER A
LEICESTER C R GALL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA C
LINGFIELD B L NORMAL UNDU EASY EASY B
LUDLOW D R NORMAL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED D
MARKET RASEN C R NORMAL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER C
MUSSELBURGH D R TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF D
NEWBURY A L GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE STAMINA A
NEWCASTLE A L GALL FLAT STIFF Q.DIFF STAMINA A
NEWTON ABBOT B L TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED B
PERTH D R TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
PLUMPTON C L TIGHT UNDU STIFF DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER C
SANDOWN A R NORMAL FLAT STIFF Q.DIFF STAMINA A
SEDGEFIELD D L TIGHT UNDU EASY EASY SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
SOUTHWELL C L TIGHT FLAT EASY DIFF C
STRATFORD D L TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED D
TAUNTON D R NORMAL FLAT EASY Q.DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER D
TOWCESTER D R GALL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA HOLD UP D
UTTOXETER C L NORMAL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF SPEED FRONT RUNNER C
WARWICK C L TIGHT FLAT EASY AVERAGE FRONT RUNNER C
WETHERBY B L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA B
WINCANTON C R GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE FRONT RUNNER C
WORCESTER C L GALL FLAT EASY EASY STAMINA C

Quote by Investor at 6.31am today;
"But from a vdw perspective i like the look of these horses.The dodgy one being Quazar but you never know".

Further quote at 4.55pm.

"Quazar was found using the same criteria that pointed towards Colourful Life.many would have left this horse but although finishing 7th lto he was on the boil and imo would have been taken"

And still they soak it up!

investor..giving horses before they run..where is this place?

i must read his posts..best entertainment on the net

JohnD
if you cannot see what was evident in Quazar then you are as blind as the preverbiable bat.I note that you failed to mention Tartouche,I wonder why.And finally,You will NEVER know.That is why you continue to peddle your bollocks on a thread that is defunct of knowledge in vdw's methods.Oh and 2 from 3 beats the shit out of 4 from millions.Wether they were mentions or they were backed.

superb

he cracks me up

LMFAO

Twit't'woo
How can something you can't understand crack you up,Strange man.i see johnD made a fleeting appearance in the gallery and ****ed off.The truth always hurts.God this thread is a complete mess i can't believe how this so called administrator who says he enjoys vdw could let this happen what a waste of ****in space.Now ban me because you have let something that was once very very good degenirate into a complete load of crap.And you think people will pay money to read the shit that is now put on here,Oh Gummy you are a fool.

Latest Member on VDW concoction book club
mariachristinawheil
and the other day Petrolbomb, Dreamer and Skunky oh and Monster

Oh My aching ribs

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where is this site Boozer

it sounds superb


INVESTOR

it's you that cracks me up..keep posting, please

Ectoo

http://forum.vdw-collection.co.uk/

Twat t woo
You forgot Monster,But the one thing that site has is a good administrator.Who looks after the forum the way it should be looked after,So any nonsense and they get ****ed off,No messing.Gummy take note.You could have made a fortune out of this site but for your incompetence and control.Great site crap administrator/s

classic

Gummy must be really sitting up taking notice of you.

you are brill, don't ever change investor