There are two class horses who are going to collect in accordance with their ability today:

Northern Dare 400N

Camps Bay 545N

Hi John

Thanks for posting these.

May I ask you a couple of questions: What makes them the class horses? And what tells you they are running to collect today?

Cheers,

lol blackcat you crack me up,read the formbook

BC,

Isn't it a little early to be at the sherry cupboard?

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Originally posted by Pipedreamer:
lol blackcat you crack me up,read the formbook

I'm obviously not so good at reading the form book PD, otherwise I wouldn't ask.

Perhaps I should give it up.

Anyway, for a bit of fun I've had a £2.50 EW trixie on Ravens Pass, Northern Dare and Camps Bay.

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Originally posted by john in brasil:
BC,

Isn't it a little early to be at the sherry cupboard?

Fair enough.

Has anyone looked at the 1.15 Sandown today?
Ive backed Stubbs art and a couple of small bets for the Guineas at 200/1,Fingers crossed lol,
Its 3rd to Twice over(now fav for Derby) caught my eye

I hope you did it for a place!

Well done Rab see the Transcend form has just been boosted at Thirsk.

couple of quid EW John

I bet ravens pass to win and had marked new approach as a lay(didnt lay it)

Ive gone with Johns two today win and place but would you be on the first Nicholls 1-33 with his older horses at Newmarket?.

I didnt see the race but was the jockey to blame for Trancend's ride the other day?

He got hemmned in a bit.

Black Cat obviously I can't read it either,lol.

Camps Bay was very unlucky not to be awarded the race. I watched the replay twice. Ajaan should have been disqualified for first bumping Silver Suitor out of the race and then bumping Camps Bay, who definitely lost momentum as a result. The stewards must've had a bet on Ajaan - to let the race stand is a disgusting decision.

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Originally posted by Pipedreamer:
Black Cat obviously I can't read it either,lol.

Put it down to experience Pd.
3 bets today; 3 x 2nds. New Approach beaten a nose, another beaten a hd after a protracted battle, and the other beaten a neck after taking a hefty bump when beginning his challenge.
Such is life!

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Originally posted by sean rua:
Re New Approach,

On all the criteria I know and use i'd make this race a shortlist of

NA
IK
RP.

BUT, that's not the way the boat floats, so

small place:win ( 80:20) bets on
Henry
Perfect
Stimulation

for me.

WELL DONE SEAN

Johnd

A couple of hours after my last post I realised that one of my statements was not as it should have been and I wouldn't want to send anyone down the wrong path. So, the paragraph should read thus;
When you boil it all down there is no real method as such. All he is doing is narrowing his field of vision to areas where he knows he will find the situations in which he liked to bet.
The type of horse is irrelevant.
This ties in nicely with the final paragraph of my last post to Walter.

JohnD

The horses which beat your selections on Saturday should be noted in the near future, for obvious reasons.

Fulham, Alan B, Hensman are the the same person. It a ruse set up by Fulham to down play VDW methods. Lee and Guest are the true Gentlemen who have given their all to this method.

Jib

You are ungrateful to a very generous man, shame on you!

Trypod

It a ruse set up by Fulham to down play VDW methods. Lee and Guest are the true Gentlemen who have given their all to this method.

Trypod,

Could you explain exactly why you think Fulhams findings are a ruse, and where he has tried to play down the methods? I'm not sure about Guest, but Lee has come on here and agreed with Fulham VDW was/isn't all he claimed (or perhaps others claimed for him) to be. While I can see Fulham's findings about VDW can bring him (VDW) into disrepute, I have yet to see anyone who has seen the proof doubt the methods.

This maybe because they have proven for themselves these methods work. Those who don't believe VDW's every word at least follow the logic, and use the basics of class and form. I did notice on another forum someone who has gone out of their way to acquire the form books now understands why folk are not happy to share their work with folk who can't be bothered to take the trouble.

I'm sure JIB will answer you, but what has he to be ashamed of? All he has done is to put into writing the facets of the VDW thinking he doesn't agree with. VDW himself said there are MANY ways to work the thinking, and to find one that was suitable to the individual punter. JIB is using class although not the method suggested, that doesn't make him wrong, as his results are proving.

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