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Lets have a debate about Stray Shot and Zamandra Whats your opinion? No good asking Fulham hes sulking in a corner with his carpet sweeper |
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Mtoto - The class rating for Island Set was wrong of course, but I'm surprised no one has picked up on how I came to have that figure in the first place.
 JIB - Your court case analogy could be along other lines. For instance, why should someone be convicted by a jury who can't be bothered to look at the entire evidence available to them? In order to sort Zamandra/Stray Shot or any other VDW selection out, you need to view all the evidence available. Correction, all the evidence VDW needed to see. |
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He's back!!!
I knew he couldn't stay away. |
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Guest,
What about some encouragement for investor, every time you throw him a scrap he gives us all a laugh. |
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Guest,
Whilst you are around, perhaps you would be good enough to have a look at my, somewhat basic, evaluation of Wild Spice, after you'd selected it the other day. Fulham seems to think that I'm a mile away with it? Would this be the case in your opinion? It's on page 556 I think. Cheers. |
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You are trying to impress upon people that something that is so simple has to be complicated
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I never sulk. As regards the six Boxing Day 1984 examples, leave Bonny Gold to one side for the time being, as the Sporting Life made an error which led VDW to draw an erroneous conclusion. With the other five races (those including Stray Shot, Castle Warden, Kevinsfort, Zamandra and River Rhein), first try looking at the last few runs of the runners in each race on the same lines as VDW showed in the Pegwell Bay example. When you can see why the five named horses were the class/form horses in each race, study the form of each relative to that of the other form horses in their respective races, in the context of capability considerations. When you reach that stage, I'll be glad to swop conclusions with you. |
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What an arrogant response
and something I would expect from somebody Like VDW person that thinks he knows it all You maybe an expert Fulham But an expert of what A book of past results? There has been a lot of those about for a long time |
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Hi Guest,
It’s yet to be officially ratified but I think its safe to say that you’ve now had more comebacks than even Frank Sinatra did. Nice one. Well done. Thanks for your recent pointers as well. Mtoto, I think your wrong about the doubters as you put it. A slavish devotion isn’t healthy.I think we all need intelligent,alternative opinions to our own or we as individuals will just stagnate.EpiG may not have read the books but he has previously posted an interesting piece about class and form and their interrelation. Cheers lads |
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Gilly - The observation you made re Wild Spice/Bobyrayo obviously has some bearing on Wild Spices form, but it was not the reason behind the selection. There are more factors to take into account than that. However, in conjunction it is worth noting the Fontwell run or the Ascot one before that.
Wild Spice was the class/form horse as VDW outlined. The fact is the horse unseated his rider before the race really got going so none of us knows what would have happened. For that reason, the race proves nothing. Interesting the race was won by a rag, though. Jimmy - It's hard to stay away when I have to respond out of courtesy to questions directed at me. Mind you, it will be easier if there are too many more extensive rows over who performed Paranoid. Surely everyone knows Black Sabbath made that amazing track. |
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Grand Funk made a song of the same title, see their live double album.
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JIB - Fair point, but wether the jury were medically minded or not, they presumably had access to all the evidence available.
If someone tells me a film is worth seeing, firstly I would take into account who was telling me this. It's very probable, if I knew them well, I would have a fair idea of if that film was really worth seeing, but I wouldn't know for sure unless I actually sat down and watched it for myself. And further to the film review analogy, how many films now regarded as classics were slated on release by experts or avoided by the public? A fair amount in my experience. |
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Hi Bream,
I would have thought there was plenty alternative opinions on this thread. We may agree about the basics, but there are plenty of different opinions about how the finer points work. Must admit I missed Epi's post (sorry Epi) could you point me in the general direction? Be Lucky |
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Epi - Ah, but was it in the same league as Ozzy's track?
I suppose I'd have to listen to it myself to find the answer? |
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quote: stick it in google and up comes... klick here or here  |
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You can trust me, it was nothing special.
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life immitates art.
was Che really Keyser Soze or is investor simply a Verbal Klint. just joking.  |
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Just a suggestion as to how you might proceed - and a genuine offer if you do. What were you expecting - me to give you "the answer" on a plate? Now that would be arrogant - on your part. |
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Guest,
I appreciate your response. Had I been in a typing mood I would have gone on to mentioned Dunster Castle, Elenas River, and indeed Uncle Mick. But, as you know one can go on for ages. I was just trying to get across that with VDW it is necessary to take account of the horses that were in the race, not jus the prize that was on offer. Fulham, I claim to be no expert, however Guest has confirmed my thinking about the method. Given your reply to me, perhaps you don’t know as much as you profess to know after all that, or were you merely trying to play my observations down? |
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